The work of Nicolás Guagnini and John Kelsey manifests itself in distinctly different forms; yet the two share an affinity for playing with the roles and structures of the art world. The conversation includes discussions of some of their recurring topics and themes: gossip, the jeune-fille, institutional critique, the abject, humor and their participation in collaborative ventures (Orchard and Union Gaucha Productions for Guagnini and Reena Spaulings and Bernadette Corporation for Kelsey). The publication is part of A.R.T. Press's Between Artists conversation-based series.